X800

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:27 am

Jun 30, 2004 7:11 am Arrived at FedEx Destination Location CARLSBAD CA

Wont be long now!

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:04 am

WOOO WOOOOOOOO!!!!

Now all of the MonXors shall be "Doom 3 Ready"

WWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:09 am

Jun 30, 2004 7:56 am On FedEx vehicle for delivery

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:50 am

The package has arrived!

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:53 am

Is it intact? Does it have all its bits and pieces together?

I insured it for $250, so if it doesn't work, you can make $100.

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:07 pm

arrived yes, working no!

getting some graphical corruption, my mouse is a square

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:10 pm

Did you fully remove the NV drivers, revert to vga then install ATI? Is your power connector hooked up? How are your BIOS settings? Does that NF2 board have onboard video? How big is your power supply? Etc.

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:12 pm

You may also need to update your chipset drivers, and there are a ton of options in the ATI drivers for compatibility and such. Might try the fast-writes and things like that. That shouldn't really cause a problem, but I've seen it before. Usually only a performance thing though.

That's stupid. Did the card look fine when you took it out of the box? No damage, mashed capacitors, etc.

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:56 am

Well i found one potential problem, and fixed another.

This motherboard is only agp 4x, i have an 8x mb, and im going to try that.

I fixed the 2d errors by turning off "enable write combining" under troubleshooting in the display properties. Which should have been tried a lot sooner.

The 3d problem will not go away, but i attribute that to the agp 4x? what do you think?

UT2004 was purchased yesterday, and is unplayable due to polygons stretching across the screen.

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:16 am

I doubt that it is the AGP 4X itself, though like I said, I wouldn't rule out the crappy VIA AGP Miniport driver. Let me know what happens with the 8X board. At the very least, it is a newer chipset, and may handle that card better. There isn't too much that could be wrong. I've been using that card since last year with no problems. The only time something could have happened is during shipping, though if the box was intact, and nothing on the card was broken, then that isn't the case either. I have a feeling it's going to work on your newer board. Of course you could always go.... Intel

(Sorry) Did you play around in the BIOS at all? It seems like VIA chipset have a lot of weird AGP settings usually.

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:15 pm

Sorry for the lack of monkey updates, but me and ender have been utilizing the DVD medium to the point of crazyness.

We were burning discs like dvd was going out of style!

So.. anyway, we now have the card working. It was exactly what you posted earlier, the fast writes. Duh, well I got too drunk yesterday to even begin to think about agp settings!

So all is good with the card, thanks for the sweet card, and for tech support.

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:07 pm

So I forgot to mention...

I spent 3 hours shopping at Frys trying to decide what to buy. I was going to get all this stuff. Actually i ended up putting it all back.

Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:11 pm

Ender...are you going to setup the Torrent for us all to use? I remember you giving me the run down on how it would work. Maybe if you refresh my memory I could do it, whatever that was.

Then we can have Monkey Trade AKA the Lair Gig Spigot TM!!!

mistasparkle* · Post by mistasparkle* » Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:02 am

...

is someone putting up a tracker?

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:13 am

Gig Spigot!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! I nearly forgot about the Gig Spigot. And the prototype GigValve TM

I wish I had the drawings still. Perhaps I'll have to draw a better looking version.

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:22 am

BTW: Fast writes will really only give you a couple percent, so it doesn't matter that much that you have them off. You should switch to AGP 8X though. You'll probably never use that bandwidth, but I imagine there are some peak cases where you might use a little more than 4X. Not sure though. How does Far Cry run on it? I imagine that we're all nearly ready to play some UT2004? I need to install it again. There are a couple of bonus packs available for it. Everyone should get and install them, so we all have the same maps and such.

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:36 am

Far cry runs well with everything on medium @ 1024

It didn't at first, but then I dropped in antoher 512 megs of RAM.

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:48 am

I have this feeling that a new motherboard would allow you to play nearly maxed in 1024. When I was using that card, I had everything at max, except shadows, which were at medium. (1024) My CPU is only a 2.4C. And AMDs are a little more efficient than Intels. I think what you're missing from my setup is AGP 8X with FW, and dual RAM channels. I'd highly recommend picking up that NForce 2 ultra. The brand doesn't matter in the least anymore, as long as it works. My specs again for comparison purposes. (Plus I like listing specs.)

Abit IC7 (i876 dual channel)
1GB Cheapie Kingston DDR400 (1x512MB module per channel)
Intel P4 2.4C (800MHz FSB)
Radeon X800Pro (was your 9800 Pro)
SB Audigy 2
2xSeagate Barracuda IV 80GB
Toshiba M1612 DVD
MSI 48X CDR
D-Link Wireless NIC
Etc.

An NForce 2 Ultra with DDR 400 and a decent Athlon XP should be able to run fairly close to what my system does. FP on an Athlon is a little more efficient, the I think it has less stages in its pipeline to stall. Etc. Even if you used your current RAM on that board, you'd be a great deal faster.

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:10 pm

Here are my new specs:

Proc: Athlon 2400 XP (2.0Ghz)
Mobo: MSI VIA KT333 (Single channel ram, agp 4x)
Ram: 512MB PC2700, 512MB PC3200
Video: Ati Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB
Sound: SB Audigy
Network: Linksys LNE 100
HDD: Segate Baracuda IV @ 80GB (2x)
DVDROM: Toshiba M1612 DVD (Unlocked region, and unlocked DVD Read)
DVDRW: Sony DRU-530A 8X +/-
OS: Windows XP Pro SP2 RC2 Build 2149

Post by **enderzero** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:58 pm

J3RK wrote:Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:12 pm

Might try the fast-writes and things like that.

Wow! That was posted before I even got to your house on Weds. Granted we didn't really try that hard, but we did talk about it a lot for the next 20 or so hours.

I am finally home after some very ridiculously stupid car goings-on (minus my car btw) but thanks k3v for the hospitality. It was certainly a fruitful trip sw wise. I came home with over 40GB of new gaming goodness. Now I just need to decide what to play first.

Bos et al. - I would very much like to figure out how to make the BT Gig Spiggot work but more research is needed into the subject of private network bit torrent. Sparkle and I both read about it in the past but I have been unable to dig up any new info. Supakuru?

I'm all UT2004,Farcry,CoD,BF:V-ed up so let's get down and play.

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 11:56 am

Fast writes, looking for a hacked miniport dirver, power supply, agp 8x, direct x 9.0c, service pack 2, nvidia driver remnants, case gremlins...

There was alot of suspected causes. We had 4 heads pouring out ideas of what could be the problem. The reason i didnt try disabling fast writes i think was the fact that the 2d was fucked. In my head it seemed to me somthing hardware related, but i guess i should have tried the fast writes sooner.

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:23 pm

No matter what it will alway be something stupid, and the last thing one checks. Happens to me all the time.

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:11 pm

I think I'm going to modify my X800 Pro. It requires a simple heatsink removal, and bridging two contact points. It doesn't work on all chips, but it doesn't seem to have any ill effects if the pipes do not get enabled with this mod. I've overclocked the card way past X800XTPE speeds, so if the pipes can be enabled, I'll clock it to XT speeds, and have an XT. WWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

I wasn't going to do this at first, but it's so frickin' simple. So many people are affraid to do it. "Oh no! I don't want to connect two points that were already meant to be connected depending on the card I bought."

Will post the results when I do it.

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:25 pm

How goes the X800 trace modification.

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:31 pm

Didn't do it yet. I got a tube of Arctic Silver 5 so that I could replace the cooler when I'm done, but I haven't had a chance to pull it apart yet. Arctic silver is delightful. I always scoffed at the idea that a different goo could make a drastic change in temp, but the combination of that, and my new Zalman cooler dropped the temp 20 degrees, and is silent. All I can here from my computer is the Video card, which isn't that loud either. I think my PC is almost to Seth standards, but not quite.

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:38 pm

Wow Your nearly silent pc sounds very impressive, it also displays some incredible benchmarks. Bravo Mr. Stroh.

BTW: Did seth actually build that pc, that he was going to build?

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:45 pm

Yes! It's the new revision of the ASUS i875 board. It's got 512 or 1GB (Can't remember) of Kingston HyperX RAM. It's got SCSI, a Lynx L22 (nicest audio card available that doesn't cost four digits.) He only put in an ATI 9600SE (because it doesn't use a fan) I think he might go for an X800 Pro though, because they are fairly quiet, and they run cooler than a 9800. You should see his frickin' cooler. It's as big as my head!

http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/cl-p ... tTower.htm

Insanity.

So he's nearly done building and tweaking it to his liking. I think he's going to get DSL too, (because he can get a good deal on it.) He expressed an interest in playing games with us. Which is why he bought Doom 3. He's going to pick up Quake 3 as well. We're going to start having Q3A matches, so hopefully some of you will join. I know many of you are no longer fond of that game for whatever fucked up reason

but it is still the best balanced, easiest to get into and put down when you want game available.

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:26 pm

Wow that is the wackiest seth fan that i have ever seen.

If seth gets DSL, we'll all iceskate home, because hell hath frozen over.

spidermonkey · Post by **spidermonkey** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:57 pm

We might also be able to ride home on flying pigs...

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 6:31 pm

im thinking bout this little number...

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