PC Poll...

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:04 am

I ran that piece of crap, rebooted, and it say DX9.0b.

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:33 am

As seen in PC gamer

So my system is Exactly the Id reccomended, mid-range doom 3 pc.

P4 2.4 or Amd equiv.
1GB ram
9800 Pro

So this game requires 384MB of Ram, and 500 is recomended.

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:39 am

I've read that the total memory usage is somewhere around 700MB, so if you have 1GB of RAM, it will not swap.

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:44 am

Ok so now we are in the same boat...

I was looking for DX9C for you i clicked on an exe to see what it did, and boom, it replaced all my files to DX9C 2126, and I have build 2149.

You might try this, its what im going to do

http://www.dark-tweaker.com/DirectX-9.0c-Anleitung.htm

Use babelfish, its in german.

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:47 am

Well i guess im now running 2126

Time to get the lateest build of SP2

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:49 am

Hmmm... Perhaps. I'd like to revert to B until C is released, but I don't know if it will overwrite the files that were just copied in, since some are newer. Bleh... I may have to do this. I'll BF it later though.

"Das Hotfix"

HEE HEE HEE

We are bbqing aren't we not?

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 12:00 pm

The german thing seems to install 2126.. try that first.

ok im downloading Windows.XP.SP2.Build.2162-WinBeta.rar

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 12:25 pm

That's old stuff. I'll just wait for a proper release I think.

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:29 pm

2162 is old, or 2126?

Why dont you just bring home a SP2 slipstream CD.

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:36 pm

Both are really

2126 was what I was referring to. Anyway, it's almost out, so I'll just wait. I could do the CD thing, but I'll just wait until I get the final. Not long now...

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:50 pm

2162 is the newest non internal release i could find. I just got a SP2 magnet and tee-shirt at work, maybe if i sport those, i can get a newer build.

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:17 pm

HEE HEE HEE... Well, I'm leaving work in a minute to go get my 6800 GT.

Seth's taking my X800, because he wants a faster video card for his PC, but he needs it to be quiet. The X800 is quiet. And if it's not quiet enough, I'm buying him a Zalman heat pipe for it.

So basically he's buying me a 6800 GT and I bought him an X800 Pro. Wooooo!!! Now I can run some of my demos that only work with NV GL extensions! I'll let you know what I think of the card when I get it installed.

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:34 pm

Oh sure... convert me to the dark side, and then go crawling back to nvidia.

I guess ryland will have to be my ATI buddy. Nah... im just giving you a hard time, i saw those benchmarks, and then i saw the pc gamer review about D3 and hardware.

Hey and look on the bright side, now you have PS3.0!

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:54 pm

Got it! I got the -BFG 6800 GT OC-

It cost the same as all the others but it comes clocked higher by default. I haven't tried much yet, because I just got home. I'll report back later. The 2D quality is far above previous NV cards that I've had. Still not quite as sharp as ATI though. Oh well.

As far as the conversion and born again activity, the 9x00 series is way beyond anything from Nvidia of the same product cycles. If I didn't get a current gen card, I'd still be using ATI. I need to get used to the new drivers. They're way different than the old ones. I can't find some things that I used to use frequently. (Like some of the custom OpenGL buffer settings and such.)

Post by **enderzero** » Sat Jul 24, 2004 1:29 pm

Goodbye ATI... just like that?

wow

That X800 is really gonna scream on that P2L97.

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Sat Jul 24, 2004 7:36 pm

Good ol' P2L97. Too bad you can't physically plug the X800 into the old AGP slot, I'd like to see what kind of numbers it got

Yeah, he's actually running:

ASUS i875 (latest rev)
P4 2.8C
Lynx Studio L22 Audio (best audio board available that doesn't cost $10000.)
SCSI (He needs it for stuff.)
That crazy cooler that I mentioned.
And now the X800.

Post by **enderzero** » Sat Jul 24, 2004 7:59 pm

Good system I'd say. Welcome to the 21st century Seth.

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 12:43 am

He's getting DSL too. (because it's cheap to add to his phone line.) So, he'll be broadbanded as well. Interesting eh? Now if he could just do something about that busy signal.

Oh, and about the ATI/NV thing:

I have no brand loyalty. I get whatever works best for what I want to do. Some brands consistently do what I need, and some don't. Sometimes a brand that's becoming a standard for me slips a cycle or two. I used to run NV cards, because they did what I wanted, so of course I will recommend them to everyone. Then ATI took the lead, and I recommended them for everything. Now I'm recommending the 6800 cards for this cycle, unless you need something a little more quiet, which is why Seth was down to take my X800 and buy me the 6800 GT. The X800s actually do a few things better than the 6800, and it has more accurate color, and better 2D stability. The 6800 though, has the best OpenGL implementation, which is going to help me with Doom 3, and run all my demos in tip-top form.

Like I said before, I still recommend the 9800 Pro for last cycle cards.

Now where's D3, I want to get tore up.

Scene Event just occurred and has some of the most impressive releases that I've yet seen. Go to www.scene.org if you want to see any of them. The releases from The Kewlers, MainLoop, and Solar are amazing. If you want to show off your hardware at all, grab them.

I'm gonna lay down back, because our concussion had me sleepy.

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 1:37 am

WOW...

I'm glad I fracked up my Windows install. I reinstalled from scratch, installed all the latest drivers, and now my games are running around 50-100% faster. Normally you gain a little speed with a fresh install (though my last install was in April) but something must have been seriously wrong. I'm thinking all the ATI drivers (even though I cleaned them off,) left something behind or something like that. Eeeekkkk!!! Fast stuff. System also seems to be more stable now too, so I'm going to try and put my CPU clock rate back up high...

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 9:38 am

Could it be a real working direct x 9.0c making things good?

I noticed mine slowed down 30% when i put on the german 9c

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 9:44 am

That could have been why my D3D was fuxored, but OpenGL was even worse. Now it's back up to where I'd expect. Quake 3 was running like crap on a 6800 GT, so I knew something was completely wrong, I just couldn't figure out what. I tried cleaning utilities, beta drivers etc. but nothing would fix it. A fresh install did though.

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:35 pm

I usually run UT2004 at maximum detail, except I leave the character detail set to normal (since they move around too fast to see well anyway.) Well, I decided to crank all the settings all the way up, and the announcer said "holy shit" or something like that. I thought that was pretty funny. So, it's running at 85Hz sync now without dropping below in max detail. Even cbp-skorbut (the Chinese airship level) is running full blast. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:06 pm

Thats funny...

I think i have all mine on high, and it runs pretty good. Except for maybe in a intense battle of onslaught, with lots of shit exploding in the same area.

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 3:32 pm

Do you have every option maxed, and does it look like it's syncing every frame at 85Hz? If so, I'm thoroughly impressed, and disappointed at the same time

Actually, it wouldn't even do that on the X800Pro I had, so I'm pretty sure I'm getting accurate results. It did look good, but wasn't totally synced. It would drop frames sometimes. Especially during big fights. The 6800 doesn't do it even when there are 12 bots flying around blasting things up though. Weeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! On the current setup, it looks smoother than say Dead or Alive 3 on the X-Box.

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:04 pm

Ok so im running 1024x768 and every option on "High" not its max.

And yes i get dropped frames during heavy fights.

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:16 pm

That's still excellent then. I was just surprised when I thought you were getting the same speed as I was. I was thinking something might be wrong again.

For the first time in a while, I am completely happy with my performance, and features. I have no want of anything else for my computer currently. That's a nice feeling. That's how I felt right after I got the i875, P4 2.4C and the 9800 Pro. And that's how I felt after we Valeried up our Nforce systems.

Ahhh, to be relaxed about my hardware. I don't have any plans for upgrades until the Dual Core Pentiums are released, whenever that is. Probably 6 months to a year I'd imagine. Then I'll get PCI Express, 1-2GB DDR2, new vid card, and the Dual Core CPU.

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:25 pm

I think ill go P4 next upgrade. DDR2, PCI Express, all that shiznoz.

McNevin · Post by **McNevin** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:06 pm

Sorry I was refering to "holy shit" when i said "thats funny.." if thats what confused you. Or maybe the fact that "high" is not the highest level in this game.

R3C · Post by **R3C** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:32 pm

There are a few that go to Higher and Highest. Yeah, that was totally funny when I heard it. I guess you would have known if you were on highest settings, because it would have said "Holy Shit"

I'm doing a full system upgrade next year sometime.

Typing... slow... eating Quiche... mmmmmmm.... My lovely wife made one for me. Fresh herbs, carmelized onions... mmmmm.......

HEE HEE...

... just ate... 10" Quiche by myself..... mmmmmm....

over...

Post by **enderzero** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 6:07 pm

I've been running it at 1024 all settings "holly-shitted." I don't sync but I've never noticed a dropped frame.

teh Forum

teh Forum

PC Poll...

Are you happy with your current PC?