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Or is it really just the people who do them?

I mean it's a drug right? so like it is totally similar to thinking that guns are bad yes? NO! Guns aren't bad! The people who wield them are! I mean if the people who wield them are bad... you know - guns don't kill people - people kill people...with drugs!!! hehehe!!!!!11

Guns don't physically alter your mind, like a drug.

What if you blow your brains out?

That is a bullet, not a gun.

I meant literally blow your brains out...with an air pistol. Just pump that baby up and let the wind blow through your ears.

That would hurt more than a bullet.

Guns are stupid. If nobody had a gun, nobody would need a gun. Pretty simple.

Drugs are a bit different. Some of them are bad. I'd say the greenery isn't bad. I don't really make use of it much anymore, but I can't say I've ever seen anything tragic happen because of its use. Sure the person is responsible in the first place, but once they start using certain chemicals, they forget that it is them who is control. If the chemical prevents them from thinking clearly enough to see the problem arising, then it isn't as much their fault after that.

Think about that weekend that we both lost about 20-30 pounds (in three days.) Did we think even once during that time that there was a problem. No, only after that when we were clear enough to understand what had happened, did we realize what had happened. If we hadn't stopped there, we could have kept going, and going, and going, and going, and going.

These days I consider a lot of drugs to be bad. I wouldn't touch almost any of them with Chubby Cox's 10 inch pole. I have a family, I'm extremely happy, things are going pretty well, and I don't need anything draining me physically, mentally, or financially. I can't say I regret anything I did in the past though. It was all fun at the time. I still like a high-powered pain killer from time to time, or a single hit of the ol' weed-tube, but nothing else really appeals anymore. Well, maybe half an 8th of mushrooms once a year on a warm summer evening. Nothing really beats that. But really, yeah, drugs are pretty bad... with the minor exception here or there. And that's coming from me... imagine that...

... just took me one of those high-powered pain killers.

Delightful stuff.

Fire is bad, Meatwad.

I know. I use it in my work.

Weed gives me almost instant sinusitis these days. I find that quite bad.

I had a phase where I would have a big sesh about once a month then visit the ENT specialist to get the consequences sorted out. The ENT guy said that Japanese are especially prone to sinusitis and that I must be turning Japanese. I said "Well unless the Japanese have recently taken to huffing lungfulls of aromatic smoke using a bucket in their sink, I don't really think so."

Actually I didn't say that.

It takes a little getting used to. Whenever puffing after a significant hiatus, it's usually followed by some throat irritation, but it goes away quickly after some consistent conditioning.

I agree with you for the most part J3RK and it is pretty cool and yes imaginable (kinda).

Not really sure what "drugs" youre talking about but, as for me, I enjoy nothing more than smoking a J, bowl, Bong, whatever; and, drinking a nice Dark Dark beer - like a Sammy Smith, Guinness, or any of the sweet US microbreews I havent had in years. Damn there are some great beers in the states.

In Japan, its just some nice natural dank buds that I deal with. Nothing chemical for the most part except for the pills my pharmacy mate gets me, muscle relaxers are tops with a beer, Xanex on a train ride makes time go by. Lots of Js rolled with a lil tobacco to mask the smell and youre flyin for a while. I feel that weed isnt a drug; the US is just to fuckin ignorant to know what theyre talking about. Japan, well, Japan is even worse...

Your skull is full of holes and pockets. The biggest pocket (in most cases) is filled with the brain. But there are also significant holes in your cheeks and all around your eyes. When these get clogged up with industrial quantities of something that looks like lemon meringue pie filling, you feel hungover all the time, and porn loses its interest, you know you have sinusitis. This is something different from having a tickling at the back of your throat.

Weed is also bad because it meant that I didn't have a fucking clue what was going on in Silence of the Lambs II (what are all those wild pigs doing?) and the England vs. Argentina game (is this the Falklands Conflict II)? I did manage to make quite a good contribution to the rich vein of humour about goalkeeper Seaman though - "Yes, Seaman all over that ball". That was considered quite funny, although being a glum cunt with sinusitis for the next two weeks wasn't.

Is alchohol a drug? It should be. I like to wield alcohol every day. I also used to enjoy wielding Browning light machine guns, Sterling submachine guns, and Browning 9 mm automatic pistols, although I never had much fondness for rifles.

"Yes, Seaman all over that ball"

I liked this shot of Seaman from the last World Cup. The picture is from the England-Brazil match and was taken 2 mins before Ronaldhino's free kick:

Yeah, Seaman was about as focused on the game as I was. Fuckin' Sven and his halftime bucket bongs.

Goemon you are quite well versed in the beautiful English game. When the US hosted the World Cup, were you too perhaps slightly contemptuous of the baseball-style topiary that the groundsmen indulged in with the turf? I like stripes myself. Call me conservative if you will.

I agree that stripes are the way to go for footie, but (having mowed a few lawns in my youth) I appreciate the art.

I grew up nearby Giants Stadium which hosted alot of matches. I remember being so happy just because Giants Stadium had to convert from artificial turf to real grass in order to stage matches there. I didn't care if there were stripes, stars, or crop circles. As long as there was grass, I was happy.

To bring it back on topic: Grass is great.

alcohol is a drug Ocean - a legal drug but big deal...so is food. A person can be addicted to food as if it were a drug too and too much food is bad. Food is a medicine - and everyone needs their medicine...the problem lies with the person who decides what dosage to give themselves. The dose is what makes the poison and the person makes the dose. Self medication is where it all goes awry...


As far as guns go - guns are weapons and those kinds of weapons will always exist as long as humans exist.

... they will exist as long as humans exist... They're still stupid though. If we didn't have them though, people would find other ways to hurt eachother. Like over-medication I enjoyed the medication we medicated ourselves with the other day. Ear medication Woooot!!!

humans are stupid...

In fact that is where all problems are derived from I beleive!

I think you could apply that logic to anything... humas are stupid...

But you can't just blame human stupidity for all the problems in the world. It would be way to easy to just say, "guns kill people, drugs ruin lives... but humans are stupid so who the fuck cares. Pass the bong." Anyway, stupid relative to what? Smart people? Actually humans as a species on earth are quite far from stupid. So what then? "Humans are flawed?" Also relative. Flawed compare to what? Robots? Non-flawed humans? (no.) All of those are just excuses to be apathetic to issues that we as humans have to, or can choose to, deal with.

So the real question would be, why, if humans know that certain activites (taking drugs excessively) can be quite harmful, do we (or do certain humans) continue to take those risks? To me every decision comes down to weighing the potential risks and benefits. Some humans' scales are just weighted more heavily in different directions.

didn't you know that? what are you stupid??? hehe

I didn't use that much ear poison!

That one was on the other night

I need to get some ear poison, just in case.



Well put 3nder...

There is an abundance of stupid people, but there are many who aren't. Most people only have the ability to excel in an area or a few areas. Not everyone has the ability to see the outcome of everything that they do. That's where problems start to arise. Take science... Some scientist starts developing something that he thinks is going to change the world for the better. Then the government decides they can use it as a weapon. Then a group of people who don't know that that's how it happened, blame the stupid scientist... Or something like that... Humans aren't necessarily stupid, they just do a lot of stupid things.

There are instances where someone would weigh some relatively small risks, or be unaware of greater ones, then do something, and then be overwhelmed. Like I said above, one can reach a point that they had not anticipated where they are unaware of what is happening. The sad part is, that's also when everyone else becomes wrong to said person. So, if a close friend says, you shouldn't keep doing that to yourself, this friend is a jerk and doesn't know what he's talking about. Anyway, it's a combination of lots of factors, both seen and weighable, and unseen/unforseen. Someone might try a chemical thinking, well, I'm just going to try it to see what it's like. Then, oh, that wasn't so bad. I don't notice any problems at all. Then a few times later it's becoming difficult to notice the pattern. Etc. Etc. That person wasn't necessarily stupid to start with. The actions become stupid as the situation progresses.