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LCD Monitors

Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 1:56 pm
by Beeeph
I'm thinking about selling off redundant equipment like my TV, DVD player, stereo amp, etc. and picking up a nice new widescreen LCD monitor for my computer. I've been looking around and it seems that Dell is, undoubtly, putting out the best product, mostly in terms of price. In the 24" range, their monitor has the best price, sitting around a grand. Whereas other 24 inchers sit somewhere between $1500 and 2Gs and don't look nearly as clean and cool, IMHO. The samsung syncmaster looks just as nice and has the same specs as the dell, but runs about $500 more than the dell. All others that I've seen look dumb and are too expensive, but I haven't looked too hard. Has anybody else done their LCD 101 homework and, if so, can I copy?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 3:43 pm
by Megatron
I know a guy who just got one of these for his computer and he seems to be quite happy with it.

http://www.shopnbc.com/product/?CIID=13 ... &taxid=112

Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 4:28 pm
by R3C
Nice. That's pretty cheap, and the native resolution is high enough for a decent computer display. May have to get one for my living room.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 5:42 pm
by enderzero
Doesn't seem too appropriate for a primary display though which I think is more what beeeeph has in mind (is that assumption correct?).

I have not done a ton of recent research but last time I checked Dell's were indeed the top dog for all around performance and price.

I stopped reading Maximum PC in 2004, but their end of the year round up ranked the HP f2304 as the best LCD available. But at $1900 street price and some miced reviews out there I would be skeptical. Sony has a nearly idnetical LCD P234 similarly priced I would check out if I was thinking of going the 23" wide route.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 7:33 pm
by Beeeph
indeed. for an LCD that's 24" or bigger, I'd want a native resolution of at least 1900x1200...which seems to be native amongst every 24 incher I've come across. still 32" LCD for $1200 ain't a bad deal, thanks saucy. I found a refurbished sony 24" widescreen CRT for $400. If I can find an apartment big enough to hold it, I might throw down a bid.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 8:35 pm
by R3C
I'd use a 32" for my primary display if I had an appropriate studio/computer room. You just need to be able to sit back from it a bit. Some big studios use projectors for the primary display, so you can sit behind your big console. Anyway, say you mounted the 32" on the wall, and pulled your desk out about 18-24 inches. You wouldn't need a monitor sitting on the desk, so you'd have the whole desktop for whatever, and a very big screen to look at. That's my plan for when I have a dedicated room.

Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 11:11 pm
by McNevin
I have moved to the next level, and finally acquired an LCD monitor.

I decided to go with the Dell 2005fpw.

Got it for the amazing price of $397, via a cool site www.techbargains.com

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Image Aspect Ratio: 16:10
Image Brightness: 300 cd/m²
Image Contrast Ratio: 600:1
Max Resolution: 1680x1050 Pixels
Max Sync Rate (V x H): 75 Hz x 83 kHz
Port(s) Total ( Free ) / Connector Type: VGA / DVI-D / S-video / Composite / 4 x USB 2.0
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 5:14 pm
by R3C
Nice McNevin. Think I'm going to do that myself soon. My new job should allow some toys. Think I'm going to take care of the musical toys first though.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 6:25 pm
by mistasparkle*
nice! If I didn't just get a sweet syncmastar, I would have gone with that dell. I've heard it's the exact same hardware as the apple cinema display.

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 9:33 am
by McNevin
It should be here any minute!

May 25, 2005
6:24 A.M.


SAN DIEGO, CA, US


OUT FOR DELIVERY
5:32 A.M.

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 1:34 pm
by R3C
Let me know how it is. I may want one. I got my most excellent controller keyboard yesterday, so I only need a couple more items before this LCD would come up on my list. :D

Check this out: http://www.cme-pro.com Mine is the UF7.

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 1:55 pm
by McNevin
I <3 IT!

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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 2:47 pm
by R3C
Splendnificent!

Now I'm trying to imagine your... umm... well populated desk with a big CRT sitting in the middle. :D

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 9:08 pm
by Beeeph
there's something on McNevins desk that begins with an 'S'

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 1:54 am
by McNevin
So there is a pretty uneven backlight on this bad boy. I read about other users having similar problems, and getting a new one overnighted to them. Guess they have not tried dell chat:

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{ 3:04:46 AM} I just recieved my 2005FPW today
{ 3:05:06 AM} The LCD has very bad Bleeding issues
{Swarnalatha 3:05:35 AM} Hello Kevin.
{ 3:06:06 AM} As well as several dead pixels
{Swarnalatha 3:06:11 AM} Kevin , I understand that you are facing some technical problems with the LCD, am I right?
{ 3:06:41 AM} Well technical as in broken, not as in i need to speak with tech support
{Swarnalatha 3:07:51 AM} I would like to inform you that few DEad pixels are found in almost all LCD's.
{ 3:08:38 AM} I dont really mind the dead pixels
{ 3:08:48 AM} thats not the major problem
{ 3:09:12 AM} The problem is the backlight is bleeding, or Leaking
{ 3:09:35 AM} The picture on a totally black screen is very uneven
{Swarnalatha 3:09:46 AM} I understand your concern.
{ 3:09:55 AM} Thanks
{Swarnalatha 3:10:01 AM} I would like to apologize for this, but unfortunately I am not fully technically qualified to handle this issue.
I wish I could help you right now so you would not have to be transferred, but like I said, unfortunately I will have to request you go to the Tech Support Department.
{Swarnalatha 3:10:08 AM} I suggest you contact Technical Support as they would best be able to assist you with the issue.You may reach Technical Support by calling 1-800-624-9896.
{Swarnalatha 3:10:10 AM} They will definitely do the needful for you in this matter.
{Swarnalatha 3:10:12 AM} You may also chat with them. The link for Technical Support Chat is http://support.dell.com/support/topics/ ... l=en&s=dhs


The current timings of availability of Technical Chat representatives is between 6:30 AM CST to 12:00 AM CST (7 Days a week).
{ 3:10:20 AM} Wait one second
{Swarnalatha 3:10:28 AM} Sure.
{ 3:10:44 AM} I dont need to speak to tech support
{Swarnalatha 3:10:51 AM} I wish I could assist you in this matter.
{ 3:11:17 AM} Can you authorize sending me a new monitor, thats what i need
{ 3:11:49 AM} I read on your forum, several other users experienceing this same issue
{Swarnalatha 3:11:52 AM} I am sorry, we in customer care do not have the authority to process exchange for this item, hence I request you to contact tech support to assist you with this matter.
{Swarnalatha 3:13:05 AM} Yes, few dead pixels are common, however, they are more causing black screen, the technical support will assist them regarding this.
{ 3:13:25 AM} ok... so can i chat with them at this time?>
{Swarnalatha 3:13:59 AM} Defnitely, you can chat with them.
{ 3:14:19 AM} ok... thanks for your help swarnalatha

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 2:03 am
by McNevin
Aparently you need a service tag to get tech support chat. The monitor has no tag.

The session has been accepted.
{Swarnalatha 3:38:07 AM} Thank you for contacting Dell Consumer Customer Care Chat. My name is Swarnalatha . How may I assist you today?
{ 3:38:19 AM} Hello again
{ 3:38:43 AM} I was trying to connect to tech support chat
{Swarnalatha 3:38:48 AM} Hello kevin.
{ 3:38:59 AM} and it will not let you in without a service tag
{ 3:39:18 AM} This monitor does not have a service tag
{Swarnalatha 3:39:47 AM} I understand your concern.
{Swarnalatha 3:39:56 AM} I suggest you contact Technical Support as they would best be able to assist you with the issue.You may reach Technical Support by calling 1-800-624-9896.
{ 3:40:21 AM} you cant tell me my service tag number
{ 3:41:24 AM} guess not...
{ 3:41:46 AM} ok.. thx
{Swarnalatha 3:41:58 AM} The service tag is present only for the computers.
{ 3:42:51 AM} Well technical support chat will not let you in without one, so i guess i cant chat then
{Swarnalatha 3:44:31 AM} I understand your concern.
{Swarnalatha 3:45:22 AM} I suggest you contact Technical Support over the phone as they would best be able to assist you with the issue.You may reach Technical Support by calling 1-800-624-9896.
{ 3:46:02 AM} Okay, i shall call them i guess. kkthx, bye.

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 3:40 am
by mistasparkle*
McNevin wrote: {Swarnalatha 3:10:10 AM} They will definitely do the needful for you in this matter.
"Do the needful"

I see that all the time in mails coming from indian co-workers, and at different companies too!! Whats the story with that saying???

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 8:17 am
by Goemon
Sounds like the latest dance craze sweeping the sub-continent.
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Do the needful!!!

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 8:23 am
by R3C
It actually sounds very much like you weren't speaking with a human. With some much repetition, it seems like it was some automated bot, that caught the words "Dead Pixels" and went to town. :D

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 1:34 am
by McNevin
i saw a cybrsex bot like that the logs were hillarious.

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 12:00 pm
by R3C
It was the same bot doing tech support. It got out of the "business" :D

"I understand your concern Dogbone, but I'm retired now. I have to do the needful. Please don't hit me with that +O anymore!"

Tee Hee Hee

Maybe it was one of Bender's hooker-bots.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:40 pm
by McNevin
Well... LCD #2 just arrived. This one is Revision 2, instead of Revision 1. Which is what I wanted. The monitor backlight is way more even, at least as far as I can tell in the daytime. There is one dead pixel, but thats better than the 3 I had with the other one. its out of the way, and ill prolly never notice. Yeah, i think its a keeper!